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17 May 2012

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Patty

I've been following your blog for...quite a while, esp. the eating/not eating so much parts. I am fascinated by all this. I have been struggling with gluttony/insulin resistance/sugar addict type problems forever and ever. Long story short, I finally got so sick of my (climbing) weight I decided to do South Beach again. Almost two weeks into phase 1 I find some days I *forget to eat until mid-afternoon when the kids arrive at home looking for food. Then I think, "Oh yeah! Better eat something". I know I have to eat to maintain my health but the old obsession with food is *gone. The idea that I now have to remember to make myself eat is simply astonishing to me. Is this part of the process of learning how to eat to live rather than to live to eat? I'd love to hear your thoughts. And I also wonder what will happen when I start adding back foods otherwise not "allowed" in phase 1. Hmmm.

bearing

I'm not sure, Patty, because I wasn't one of the people who succeeded (for long) on South Beach or Atkins. I am not the person to ask about how to deal with "phase" diets. I did manage to lose about 20 pounds on Atkins between two of my pregnancies, but was back to where I was before post-pregnancy.

It's a balance between the biochemistry and the psychology, I think. If I *could* have given up carbs, I could eat more and be less hungry than I am now. But it was mentally easier for me just to learn to eat less of everything. I really struggled on the "phase" diets; I think they contain traps that I was too easily caught in.

I definitely think they are worth a try, because I do know that many people have found that they can work really well with them. I'm not one of them. There's something about the "you only have to put up with this stringent phase-I diet temporarily and then you can relax and do the easier phase-II diet" that messed with my head.

For me, it made so much more sense to work towards a permanently sustainable way of eating -- and it turned out I was fortunate to find one on which I could maintain my weight, not without effort.

This is probably worth a post of its own.

Patty

I agree about aiming for a permanently sustainable way of eating, and South Beach phase 1 isn't it. For me, it appears that I needed to do something dramatic (like stop eating everything but eggs, meat, nuts and vegetables) for a period. I fully expected this was going to be HARD, so I am truly shocked at how disinterested I am in food. Only a couple weeks ago I thought about food and ate a lot. I believe I am dealing with some food allergies (wheat, dairy, other things?) and will be seeing an allergist next week to hopefully get more insight into that question. Maybe that has something to do with it? When I start eating a wider variety I am going to be very careful about what and how quickly I add foods back into my general food rotation. I want to see how I react to each item. I think there is something very significant about how quickly the obsession with food disappeared after I stopped eating everything except what is on my list above. More will be revealed! Thanks.

bearing

Allergies and food intolerances bring in a whole new world of complication. You definitely have to be careful about re-introducing things if you are going to try to suss out a food intolerance that's causing part of the problem.

I don't have any specific food intolerances that I know of, and so the thing that turned out to be sustainable was a balanced-but-on-the-low-carb-side menu. It was much easier for me personally to learn to eat smaller, but normal-looking plates, than it was to say "No pasta, never again." If it made my weight loss slower, so be it.

Patty

I wonder if it might be easier for me to say, "no pasta, never again" than eat less pasta. Whether it's a food allergy or intolerance or sheer lack of will power, it's *that difficult to stop eating pasta/bread/cookies once I get going. I have no trouble stopping eating when there are no starches on my plate.

I ate some fruit today, and ended up eating some ice cream this evening. It was a small bowl of ice cream, and I was very aware of the fact that I wasn't allowing myself another one despite the fact it was an all you can eat fundraiser. Baby steps. Allergist next Friday. We'll see what he says. Thanks for your time.

Delores

that is a great definition of gluttony!

bearing

Thank you, Delores! I have more coming on this topic.

Marie Miller

Gluttony is considered as an illness but now there's another meaning of it- a person is healthy and will be having no Disease such as gluttony if he/she will share.

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