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19 December 2009

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Rob Harrison

I've dealt with Catholic Answers a number of times, and I wouldn't really take them as a reasonable source on this sort of (anti-Protestant) point. I'm not sure where you get the comma after "one" and see "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic" as separate categories; by my understanding, both of the history and of the grammar, the point of the Nicean-Chalcedonian Creed is that the church is one, and that the one church has three characteristics: it is holy, it is catholic, and it is apostolic.

As far as "catholic" proper, this is a reference to the church universal--the whole church throughout time and space. From my past conversations with folks at Catholic Answers (friendly conversations, withal), I think the reason for their dismissal of the idea that "catholic" includes Protestant churches is their *a priori* commitment to the position that only the Catholic Church is the true church. Given that presupposition, then yes, logically, you conclude that the church catholic (i.e., universal) does not include Protestants; but there's nothing in the word itself to justify that conclusion.

And what they mean when they say the word "catholic" "was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others," I have no idea.

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