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20 October 2012

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MrsDarwin

If the opposite of "listening to the Lord" is "to grow stubborn", then the idea presented is that those who do not listen are the ones who are changeless, and that changelessness is not always an admirable or beneficial quality. (Looking at this from the viewpoint of rest, that's not too surprising: imagine trying to get any rest if you were to lay rigid and changeless all night, instead of being able to move around and get comfortable!) Since God has declared Himself to be "I Am Who Am", His every action is made in an eternal present, in which past, present, and future are perfectly balanced. Human changelessness is rooted only in the past, behavior that will not take into account the exigencies of the present moment. And it's this human perspecitive of time that gives us the perception that God changes, even though His every action is consonant with His eternal being.

Bearing

I like that, MrsD!

priest's wife (@byzcathwife)

In addition to my Byzantine catholic 'style' prayer- I pray morning and evening prayer with the 'Shorter Christian prayer' book- it is much easier to navigate than the four volumes of the DO

MelanieB

"it's this human perspecitive of time that gives us the perception that God changes, even though His every action is consonant with His eternal being."

I like that very much!

I was thinking about this post this morning during Morning Prayer with the Canticle from Tobit: "When you turn back to him with all your heart, to do what is right before him, then he will turn back to you, and no longer hide his face from you." God's hiding his face is not so much an action he takes but the inevitable consequence of our turning away from him, isn't it? If you are turned away from someone, you can't look them in the face. And if you know you've done wrong to someone, it's really hard to meet the eyes of the person you have wronged.

Then this: "Turn back, you sinners! do the right before him: perhaps he may look with favor upon you and show you mercy." It isn't so much that God withholds his mercy or refuses us his favor, is it? It's that when we are turned away from him we aren't open to receiving the mercy he is constantly pouring out upon us. We cannot perceive him looking with favor because we aren't focused on him at all but on ourselves.

I can tell I'm going to keep spotting all the passages where it appears that God changes and trying to re-read them to see how it is really our perception that changes.

MelanieB

Oh and my word verification: "surrender". That seems apt.

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